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| Posted by jlhaslip at Oct 19, 2008 10:18:52 PM |
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Re: CMS (Content Management System) : Accessibility [07/03/07] Has anyone measured sNews CMS on an accessibility scale yet? http://snewscms.com/ |
| Posted by MrGrey at Dec 2, 2008 4:39:10 AM |
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Re: CMS (Content Management System) : Accessibility [10/030/08] . About accessibility Firstly. It may not be all that abvious, specially for non english natives (or developers) what the meaning of Accessibility really is. Can You define "Accessibility" in other words, pls!? How does it actually show to the user? Secondly: Does accessibility make the cms more non-intuitive or not so easy to understand for newbies? /MrG |
| Posted by Wickham at Dec 2, 2008 7:47:42 AM |
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Re: CMS (Content Management System) : Accessibility [10/030/08] Can You define "Accessibility" in other words, pls!? How does it actually show to the user? Accessibility usually doesn't "show" on a webpage; two basic features are:- 1. It allows people without a mouse (either disabled people or people who just don't like using one) to navigate by using the tab key and other keys. 2. It allows blind or partially sighted people to use screen readers which dictate to speakers as you move around the page. Does accessibility make the cms more non-intuitive or not so easy to understand for newbies? I think the coding needs to be the same and have the same result in a CMS. ---------------------------------------- Code downloaded to my PC will be deleted in due course. WIN XP SP3; IE7, Firefox 3.0, Opera and Safari for Windows; screen resolution usually 1024x768. IE6 on W98 with 800*600. |
| Posted by debmc99 at Dec 16, 2008 8:13:12 AM |
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Re: CMS (Content Management System) : Accessibility Which do you think is easier to learn: WordPress or CMSMS? I know very little PHP and I am no programmer, but I know I need to learn some sort of blog/CMS. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! |
| Posted by shelfimage at Dec 16, 2008 9:25:41 AM |
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Re: CMS (Content Management System) : Accessibility I first learned WP and although it was easy, some of the templating and tag usage felt awkward b/c I was not very familiar with PHP. When I started with CMSMS I thought it was easier because you are not using traditional PHP tags or syntax to build a template (unless you want to). In CMSMS to include a page's title and content from the page editor, simply add this tag into your template: <h1>{title}</h1> <div id="myContent">{content}</div> In WP to add content - a post summary or full post article - add this, or something similar, to your template: <?php if (have_posts()) : while (have_posts()) : the_post(); ?>The HTML markup and containers around the tags and PHP code can be changed to your liking. There are advantages and disadvantages to both approaches. CMSMS templates are stored in a database. You will need a good web host with reliable and strong database servers to prevent long page loads. There are a lot of things that can be done so this is not an issue, but too advanced for this discussion. On the plus side, you can have one template or many templates for a website to allow design flexibility. You can not have multiple templates easily on a WordPress on your site unless you want to simulate this using PHP techniques - too advanced for this discussion. On the plus side, the templates are not stored in the database so page load is not an issue. Looking back, I think CMSMS is slightly easier to learn because there is more flexibility. However, Wpress has a much stronger user community and documentation make learning it fun. ---------------------------------------- "The art of life lies in a constant readjustment to our surroundings." -Okakura Kakuzo Save the developers<!> Maine Webworks |
| Posted by LSW at Dec 16, 2008 10:56:52 AM |
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Re: CMS (Content Management System) : Accessibility [10/030/08] About accessibility Firstly. It may not be all that abvious, specially for non english natives (or developers) what the meaning of Accessibility really is. Can You define "Accessibility" in other words, pls!? How does it actually show to the user? Secondly: Does accessibility make the cms more non-intuitive or not so easy to understand for newbies? /MrG The Germans call it "Barrier Free Design." I always rather prefered that. It is making a web site that does not block the user from using it. What if you are color blind and they use red text on black? If you don't see red you will have dark olive green on black. It is a barrier. What if you are epileptic and they have some MTV style "in your face" hectic animation... you can have a seizure so cannot use the site. It is a barrier. What if you choose not to or cannot use a mouse do to say Arthritus, what if you use a mobile device?... yet the site is built only for mouse use using JavaScript, or the links do not have underlines or effects and their are lots of them. Mis use of header tags... These are all barriers to using the site with a keyboard. What if you build a site with a fixed width for widescreen as that is what you have and what looks nice.... and I have a smaller resolution? Side scroll is a barrier. What if the user is blind and you use poor code and nested tables 5 deep and psuedo lists and no headers... you have destroyed the logic and navigation aid for blind users, it is a barrier. What if you use lots of slang, either English slang or techno slang without explaining it or having another form to understand these terms. It is a barrier to those not fluent speakers or not in that business and to those with cognitive disorders who have trouble understanding what they read. If you justify text so you have these long gaps between words or long paragraphs of small type or really wide paragraphs of long text it can be a barrier for Dyslexics. Accessibility for the user of a web page makes the page easier to use for disabled and abled bodied as well and helps search engines as it is also about logic and good structure and complete correct markup without/with few errors. For CMS, it makes the CMS easier to use for the same reasons. If it is you alone accessibility is not an issue unless you use it. If you are using a CMS for a site someone else will work with, then the back end should be accessible as well for the admin folks now or those in the future as employees change or illnesses, age or accidents take their toll. As we get older our health does not get better and anyone can break their mouse arm and need to use a keyboard or get a new mobile device for Christmas. That help? |
| Posted by LSW at Dec 16, 2008 11:02:22 AM |
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Re: CMS (Content Management System) : Accessibility Which do you think is easier to learn: WordPress or CMSMS? I know very little PHP and I am no programmer, but I know I need to learn some sort of blog/CMS. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! They are not hard to learn, it is mostly just learning enough PHP to be able to understand what does what and what needs changing. What is important is what is needed. WP can be used for a CMS... but why? It is a blog software. CMSMS can be used for a blog I believe, most CMS offer RSS feeds now, But it is to control a regular site with real pages of static content and whatever, so why use it for a Blog. As a purist, although they can be used for multiple roles, why use a CMS for a blog and why use a Blog for a CMS? If you want a web site to sell things or introduce a product, service or info on a company etc., use a CMS. If you want to write articles or post about your newest rusted beer can for your rusted beer can collection... use a Blog. Use the right tool for the job. |
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